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Old Nov 02, 2005, 12:31 PM // 12:31   #21
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the first character i ever made, i got the most out of pre searing.
me and some other dude spent like 5 hours over the wall and killed every single charr in there, i was about lvl 12 when we were finished. it was fun dont knock it
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Old Nov 03, 2005, 06:31 AM // 06:31   #22
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Charr hunting in Pre-Sear is great fun. And its not your standard "run-in-and-kill-them-all" approach either. You've gotta be smart to do it. Much fun, I think I'm gonna go back and make a Char just for pre sear alone.
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Old Nov 03, 2005, 04:00 PM // 16:00   #23
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Been clearing the Charr a lot lately, they hit hard but are doable. Only thing that really irks me is the inability to salvage stuff with expert kits; I've sold off at least 10 runes at this point as they're still stuck in the robes/armour I found them in. Expert salvage kits would be great!
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Old Nov 03, 2005, 06:22 PM // 18:22   #24
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Everyone complains about hard missions like this... Why do them, then? There's no reason to stay in pre-searing past level 3.
How the hell do you survive in post at lvl3?
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Old Nov 03, 2005, 08:10 PM // 20:10   #25
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There are some that stays in Pre and kills the bosses at the shrine for xp

I have a elementalist with some ranger skills that has reached lvl 14 and 80%, took me about 60-70 hours, but i havent been entirely focused on being time efficient.

The Northlands isnt that hard. I could Solo it at lvl 8 (providing someone let me in). There are plenty of cover and terrain, that can be used for tactical advantage. Some charrs can be pulled to the gate, where the ress shrine monk can help.

I have heard that there are lvl 20:s in Pre-Seering, but I think they must have "lvl:ed" the enemies -by dying alot. Since at lvl 16 the lvl 10 bosses dont give any xp.

Saving the quest exp for lvl 15-16 is a good way of conserving effort
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Old Nov 04, 2005, 12:13 AM // 00:13   #26
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pre...

and this are the bosses guarding the shrine.
we were both at lvl 7, it was a lot of hit n run, sneak n dot and we "almost-died" a lot...we did for fun, not for xp.



dead of corse...


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Old Nov 04, 2005, 08:01 AM // 08:01   #27
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noobs! im outta pre-seering by lvl 2 or 3 at the most. What a total waste of time. Other than gathering your basic skills which you can buy later anyways, this place has no use. Leveling is a total waste early. No matter what you'll be level 20 by the time you ascend, so why bother leveling. And its not like any of that stuff is all that hard. The whole game is based on teamwork and understanding how the game works. My level 5's are often much more effective than any level 10's around because i have weapons passed down from other characters, and as long as you're not a warrior you dont have to take hits. And any caster can still do very solid damage anyways. What kind of gold are you going to make there anyways? 1 and 2 gold per kill. What a complete waste of time. You could spend a week there and not get the exp you'd get off of 1 hill giant in the riverside mission. Learn the ropes and dont spend more than 10 minutes in pre-seering and you'll be a happier person later on. To all of you who waste more time there than that,
Do you drink acid fluids for breakfast?
Some unnecessary rant. Some like pre-searing. so what, let them enjoy it.
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Old Nov 29, 2005, 03:14 PM // 15:14   #28
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Ahhhh... Charr hunting, can anything be more fun?

I love it! I've taken each of my 4 characters (usually when around lvl 7) Charr hunting at least twice... And twice with 2 characters I went the whole hog in a 2 man team to kill all the Charrs over the wall. It's great fun and a very good place to serve as a training ground.

I remember the first time I saw Charrs up close and personal, as an E/R it was a bit too personal for my liking. A simple extraction quest, my team mate located Ben Wolfson and was leading him out. Being the curious cat that I am, I decided to have a look at these Charrs. C'mon, who wouldn't be curious after constantly hearing scores of people shouting 'LFG to go Charr hunting' in Ascalon City. Well, I saw the 4 near where Ben Wolfson was and approached without caution ('what was I thinking?'). 'My, they look frightening big and ugly' I thought, and that thought was quickly replaced by confusion and sheer panic as my health started dropping and 2 Axe Fiends charging towards me. From that point, all I can recall was frantically clicking my mouse and bashing at my keyboard, but somehow I just barely made it across the water to be relieved that they gave up the chase. We completed the quest and needless to say I was in no rush to go back again.

But I did go back again, but as a N/W. Teamed up with a R/? to do the Ben Wolfson quest. Completed the quest and had a quick chat about a spot of Charr hunting. My N/W was doing well in Pre-Searing, so why not? On the approach to the same 4 Charrs, 'payback' was on my mind, 'they scared me the first time, I'm gonna kill them this time' I thought. Kinda near the Charrs were 3 Grawls, not sure where they came from. 'No matter, they're not too close to the Charrs, so we'll kill them first hehehe'. The Ranger attacked and her pet charged out to meet them. Not sure exactly what happened, but the Charrs came out to attack the Grawls. We decided to retreat, let them dish it out and then finish what's left, but the pet wanted some Charr meat and stayed. Seeing that it was to our advantage to side with the Grawls, we started to attack the Charrs. Then Sod's Law, yup... the pet came running back to us, closely followed by... yup, you guessed it... 2 Axe Fiends. A quick skirmish, a couple of rez'es, and we were at the rez. shrine. The Ranger sounded chuffed with 'I got the Shaman!'. 'Cool, how many left?'. '3' was the answer. We charged in and quick as a flash, we were back at the rez. shrine again. 'How did we do, I dunno what happened?'. 'Got another' said the Ranger. We had a chat and agreed that we were not really ready for this and departed on our own merry way.

Seeing that my N/W didn't have much effect on the Charr, I wanted another try, and teamed up with a Me/? We faired much better and gave those at the Charr shrine a good beating, although I did loose count on the number of runs from the rez. shrine. After awhile we decided to call it quits. When I commented that I seemed to be having a tough time with Charrs (as I felt that the Me/? was carrying me), the reply was that Warrior as a second was not very effective. I saw that as a polite way of saying 'your build SUCK!'. Maybe a Warrior second was fine, but just not for me... Anyway, a lesson was learnt, and from it spawned my N/Me and W/N.

Since those 3 excursions, the sport of Charr hunting got better, especially with a regular team mate, better builds and refined tactics.

I always enjoy those which required a game of cat and mouse. Using hit and run tactics, we'll try to separate the pack. When they gave up the chase, usually one would hang around or lag behind... easy meat. It's exciting when trying to put down this loner and only to notice that behind it there's one or more Charrs heading towards you. Do you finish it off and hope you have time to recharge, or do you run? Fight or flight? Fight or flight? Arghhhhh! RUN AWAY!

The funniest time was taking out the bosses at the Charr shrine without wiping out most of the other Charrs. At the shrine, my regular team mate and I have this habit of taking out the 4 patrolling up front, the 2 on the right corner of the shrine and then head up the hill on the right (and taking out the 4 up there if they're close). This time, when the hill was cleared, we used bows to draw out a boss. Slowly pulling it out so it couldn't be healed and then hitting it with everything we had. It was a very long and slow process as the boss sometimes ran back and we had to draw it out again and also due to the patrol from the rear of the shrine, it was mainly a waiting game (sure, we could have charged in, but we wanted to try something different). It was amusing when we took down a boss and this patrol returned, one could imagine them seeing the dead body and thinking 'pfft! yeah, whatever!' before wandering off again. Every time it came back, there was another dead boss, LOL.

It was a great feeling to kill all the bosses with many Charrs still guarding the shrine, taking them out from right under their noses was almost like taking candy from a baby...

Tis a shame that I now only have one character left in Pre-Searing...
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